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    Fractalfallout

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    #48529   2008-05-20 15:27 GMT      

    I would be using an AR-15.

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    #48530   2008-05-20 15:36 GMT      
    Wolf ammunition has a steel bullet instead of copper. This is fine if your shooting outside. However almost all ranges will prohibit you from shooting steel on their range. Thats one reasone why most people dont buy it. The other reason is that its low grade ammunition that doesn't burn cleanly. If you are shooting it outside I would say fine. Otherweise if you are going to a range dont buy Wolf

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    #48531   2008-05-20 15:37 GMT      
    Wolves don't have alot of money so they try to give them a break. I've never heard any complaints Oh No! Full Moon Arrgghh ohh Arrgh Awooooooooooo! Arrgh arrrgh Awoooo!

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    #48532   2008-05-20 15:37 GMT      
    It's made in former Communists countries that are poor and desperate for US dollars. Economics, my amigo....it's the proceeds of winning the Cold War and you can thank Ronald Reagan!

    It's OK to shoot in some guns. It should be considered cheap target ammo only, and should not be shot in expensive or particular precision firearms.

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    #48533   2008-05-20 15:40 GMT      
    It's russian made comrade, and they crank it out by the truckload. The shell casing is made of steel instead of brass which helps a little but not much. but other than that other brands you pay for the name, like remington, winchester, etc etc. Bullet is still made out of copper and lead and still uses smokeless powder. It is made for more durable firearms like foreign jobbers, which will feed steel cased ammo without problems. If you have an expensive firearm I would suggest sticking to the softer brass casings.

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    #48534   2008-05-20 15:46 GMT      
    Mostly it's because the cases are made from steel not brass making them non reloadable. I would not shoot this ammo in anything other than firearms designed to shoot it. For instance the SKS and AK47 were designed to fire steel cased rounds. Most handguns from popular makers are not designed to handle the steel case many of which warn against use of this ammo. Besides 7.62 X 39 all the rest of Wolf ammo is worthless for me.

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    #48535   2008-05-20 16:07 GMT      
    On youtube, there's a video of a guy shooting Wolf ammo, and 2 other kinds. The wolf ammo misfired like 7 or 8 times in one magazine.

    Remington is bad at jamming and misfiring too. Everybody tells me to get Winchester.

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    #48536   2008-05-20 16:12 GMT      
    it uses steel cases, which are cheaper than copper, but this isn't any steel, this is soviet steel, made from old tanks and bridges and lawnmowers, and it is made by soviet serf class labor, which is dirt cheap as well

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    #48537   2008-05-20 16:22 GMT      
    Like many before me have said, it has a steel cartridge case instead of a brass case. This is made on old soviet machines and to their standards. The powder is not as clean burning. The big savings is foreign manufactured ammunition doesn't pay money to the Pittman-Robertson Act.

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    #48538   2008-05-20 16:44 GMT      
    Russian built, lots of miss fires, but cheap, you get what you pay for....
    Good Hunting..

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    #48539   2008-05-20 16:45 GMT      
    do NOT use this ammunition in an ar-15 or any weapon that was not manufactured for the use of steel cased ammunition (basically limits you to AK's, maks, or any other soviet made weapon). The steel casings are too harsh and commonly break extractors on weapons not made for them. if you want cheap ammo, look at CCI.

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    #48540   2008-05-20 17:31 GMT      
    Forget about using it.*

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    #48541   2008-05-20 17:52 GMT      
    I have bought thousands and thousands of rounds of Wolf ammo.... .223, 7.62X39MM and shotgun buckshot ammo... Its decent stuff but not perfect..... My AK shoots this stuff all day. My shotguns digest Wolf flawlessly and my Ruger Mini 14 ranch rifles eat it up with no problems...... There are a few downsides to some of this stuff. My Ruger Mini 30 doesnt like HotShot or Wolf steel ammo.... The firing pin hits the primer but it doesnt fire.... This happens about every 15th or 20th round..... The AK and SKS just eat it up.... The Wolf .223 on the other hand always fires but its not that accurate in my AR15 rifles or Mini 14. 2 1/2 inch groups is all you can expect out of that stuff.... If you want sub MOA ammo this stuff isnt going to do it.... For general purpose plinking this Wolf stuff is awesome.... Some people mentioned this steel case stuff is rough on the rifles. I havent found this to be the case but will concede its probable -- Other people have told me about broken extractors and such but - PLEASE SEE THE BIG PICTURE. I personaly shoot thousands of rounds of wolf ammunition every month. .... AMMUNITION IS EXPENSIVE for the good stuff! The cost of ammunition can easily exceed what you paid for the rifle and any repair costs... Thats why I like Wolf... So what if it breaks an extracter? I bought in the last 5 months 3500 rounds of steel case ammo for $750 and am most of the way thru it.... Can you imagine if I bought the same amount in expensive brass ammo?? I would have paid over $1750 for the brass stuff..... I can buy an extra 2 rifles for that!!! Now I will admit I do not fire some of that stuff thru 2 of my AR15 and 2 of my Mini 14's. But I do fire it all thru what I call my plinker/beater Mini 14's and AR15 rifles (another 4 rifles)..... If they break I fix them or cut them up for scrap and buy another rifle or 2..... I am out to enjoy myself. Not worry if a parts gunna break..... Trust me on this - buy 2 rifles with the cost of the second rifle being payed for by NOT using expensive ammo....... Hope This helps.....

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    #48542   2008-05-20 18:10 GMT      
    It is made with cheaper components... powder, primer, bullet and casing (the cases might be reloaded, check the box, I am not sure with Wolf ). It is fine for plinking, but if you fire a shot and it doesn't 'sound' or 'feel' right....unload the weapon and check the barrel. You may have a bullet lodged in the bore. I ran into this once with CCI Blazer ammo in 9mm Parabellum.

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    #48543   2008-05-20 18:32 GMT      
    no its not a round I would depend upon for life but fun to shoot.

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    #48544   2008-05-20 19:36 GMT      
    you get what you pay for

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    #48545   2008-05-20 21:57 GMT      
    This sort of question has been asked before.
    Please read my answer to the question I've linked ....
    http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=A9FJujPvgDNIpjABfTXty6IX;_ylv=3?qid=20080501144647AAwHBP7&show=7#profile-info-hciuZATgaa

    Here's an excerpt of my answer:

    "... The steel cases of Wolf ammunition don't expand or flex like brass cases and don't create a good seal against the walls of the rifle chamber.
    So, small amounts of burnt powder residue get blown back into the chamber area when a Wolf .223 cartridge is fired.
    The residues build up a layer of gunk on the chamber walls and eventually act like "glue".

    There's a topic thread about this phenomena at www.AR15.com"
    http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=3&f=7&t=373701


    The value of using Wolf ammunition will depend upon which cartridge & rifle combination you select for use. It seems to work nicely in firearms that chamber 7.62x39mm cartridges. The compatibility of Wolf .223 ammunition with AR-15 type rifles varies.
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