Yey!
I became successful on buying a gun at the gunshow.
I've bought a $90 italian Carcano (I think ther Terni on it?)
yes I bought one from a private seller (actually i could go to the FFL dealer but they don't have what I want.)

anyway, *Doc Hudson don't worry I'm legal to have handgun as long it's private sale. I talked to the Pols.

and about that... it's almost closing time so I decided to buy a handgun on private sale, but they're all packing up..
so I decided to go to a priv.seller and asked if he got a 9mm handgun on $200 range, so he said yeah, and he picked upped on what I thought a beretta. then when I came home
it's not!!!! it a Helwan Pistol!!!!!!!

it has a holster though...but the grips on the back portion is RIPPED!!!! it should cost atleast 60-70 dollars!!! (T-T)

I know I'm ripped but any Idea what decent handgun can i trade it for? just don't forget this question okay?


grips cost for about $26 plus shipping
haven't tried it though if it works.
yeah, here in TN you can have handguns for private sale if you're 18 above.
But you need to be 21 for FFL dealers.
also, Legal Aliens had the right to bear arms!!!
It's the law they said quote *NRA* quote *pols*
I'm not thinking about the Helwan as a POS but it's grips are eally messed up (well, only the back portion though).

for the CArcano:
I've bought like a 100 rounds for atleast $56
I don't have any reloader yet and I have no idea from doing those things too.
then bought 10 en bloc clips for 32 plus shipping.

i really didn't think about its use but only on its reputation..then I just realized that its ammo is very expesive.
Hornady is making a custom ammo for them carcani but they're $23 for 20 rounds!!!!

I would say about the condition of the gun;
well, the bolt when you pull it, is wiggly.
you can load on it though and fire accurately
like a normal bolt action. though I haven't seen any number on the bolt.
The finish of the stock is really good (as in)
But I think the stock is from a different gun coz it's really shiny and different from those carcani stocks.

but it's more like carbine style coz it's not too long (the sights are original as well).

next gun show is june 14-15.
sorry for those dudes that have been hurt coz I think I said bad about the Helwan but I'm just thinking about how I did with the price then it's cosmetic condition. haven't seen it's performance yet.
But I have no idea if it's reliable coz some people from the net wrote a review and said they will not recommend helwan pistols for survival or any sort of action.
is it really a good and reliable pistol?

Yeah Manuel, you got ripped off, but more for the rifle than the pistol.

The rifle's ammo is next to impossible to find and ridiculously expensive when you find it. Whether the 6.5 Carcano, or 7.35 Carcano, they do not have a great reputation for accuracy, nor power.

I'd not have given more than $40.00 and then I'd have bought it strictly for a wall hanger or stage prop. As a matter of fact, a fellow who had one once asked me what it was worth. He'd taken it for a $50.00 debt. I told him he'd been cheated and that he ought to weld the bolt shut, paint the muzzle orange and let his kids play army with it.

The Helwan is an Egyptian made, and officially licensed copy of the Beretta M-951 Brigadier. The design dates back to the late 1940's or early 1950's. Beretta has been making them since 1952.

In the early 1950's Egypt adopted the Beretta M-951 as their service sidearm. As part of the contract, they specified that the pistols be made in Egypt. When Beretta completed the contract, they had a factory they really didn't want or need so they sold it. The pistol has been in continuous manufacture ever since under the Helwan marque.

Depending on condition, the price really is not too bad. It is a little steep, but then again, gun prices are rising. Last time I saw some for sale, prices were in the $150-175.00 range, but that has been a couple of years ago. I really don't think you did bad on buying the Helwan. If it had the Beretta brand on it, you'd have paid $100.00 to $200.00 more for it.

BTW, I'm glad you got an opinion from the BATFE before making the purchase. I'd hate to hear of you getting into trouble.

Quit worrying about whether or not you paid too much for the pistol. If it is a good shooter, you got a decent deal. If it doesn't shoot well, that is another story.

Good Luck and Good Shooting!
Doc

Next time Think real hard before you buy, sell or trade.
because on a firearm, the deal is done for, when the deal has been made.

I'm not sure I understand all your statements, but I can say that under federal law, you cannot buy or own a handgun if you are under 21. Yes, you can buy or own a long gun at 18. Regardless of what state law might say (and I don't know oa any off hand that don't agree) federal law takes precedent and forbids anyone unde 21 from owning or buying a handgun.
As for the Helwan, The only ones I handled (several years ago) were of OK quality, not anything great, and not junk, but not something I would buy.
good luck